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maxim3 · Apr 02, 2008, 10:28 AM // 10:28

hi, does someone know with wich dye mix its possible to make a color who looks like black? ty

Tatile · Apr 02, 2008, 10:38 AM // 10:38

Most Prophecies armour is purple+green. I'm not sure about other armours, but this place likely has the answer.

Baird · Apr 02, 2008, 11:48 AM // 11:48

I too only heard of the purple + green combo to make black for Prophies armor

Elder III · Apr 02, 2008, 12:11 PM // 12:11

purple +green works on some of the weapons as well, it sometimes helps to add red or brown to the mix, but not always. Of course some items you cannot get to look black no matter what you do.

*hint*
I always have at least one of each dye color on hand so that I can check color combinations whenever I want to dye something.

maxim3 · Apr 02, 2008, 01:25 PM // 13:25

but i mean on armor heh, not on weapons (thy 4 the other replies)

Jam Jar · Apr 02, 2008, 02:58 PM // 14:58

In real life, like in REAL life, yellow, red, and blue makes black

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Morgoth the dark · Apr 02, 2008, 03:01 PM // 15:01

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Originally Posted by Jam Jar

In real life, like in REAL life,

whoa, what's that?
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On topic, purple + red + green makes a nice combo.

Sir Tidus · Apr 02, 2008, 09:35 PM // 21:35

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Originally Posted by Jam Jar

In real life, like in REAL life, yellow, red, and blue makes black

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Agreed. That's what's supposed to happen in real life. Though I can never actually get it to happen.

Witchblade · Apr 02, 2008, 09:39 PM // 21:39

texmod, free

j/k

Sir Tidus · Apr 03, 2008, 12:26 AM // 00:26

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Originally Posted by Witchblade

texmod, free

j/k

The reason that they want to make fake black is because they want to look rich to other people, so texmod won't work. I personnally think black is ugly. Now, white, that's another story entirely.

Kerwyn Nasilan · Apr 03, 2008, 01:31 AM // 01:31

purple green red works pretty well i use it to dye non elite armors theat would look nice black for less money.

Enko · Apr 03, 2008, 02:16 AM // 02:16

you have a specific armor that you're looking to dye? different armors dye differently.

T1Cybernetic · Apr 03, 2008, 03:19 PM // 15:19

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Originally Posted by Sir Tidus

The reason that they want to make fake black is because they want to look rich to other people, so texmod won't work. I personnally think black is ugly. Now, white, that's another story entirely.

I have a ton of gold but i still dont like buying black dye

i have tried alot of combos to get black but it's never really been worth it so texmod it is for me

creelie · Apr 03, 2008, 03:36 PM // 15:36

It really depends on the armor. Monk armors dyed purple+green almost always turn some shade of blue. Mesmer Tyrian armor (female) dyed default gray looks almost exactly like old black. Collect 3 of each of the cheap dyes, and do some experimenting in preview.

The awful detail-destroying new black is hard to replicate, and why would you want to? I only use black when I simply HAVE to darken a mix and have exhausted my other options; I wouldn't dream of using it alone.

Sir Tidus · Apr 03, 2008, 09:51 PM // 21:51

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Originally Posted by T1Cybernetic

I have a ton of gold but i still dont like buying black dye

i have tried alot of combos to get black but it's never really been worth it so texmod it is for me

So you like the look of black armor?

T1Cybernetic · Apr 03, 2008, 11:24 PM // 23:24

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Originally Posted by Sir Tidus

So you like the look of black armor?

Yeah on some items /armor but with texmod you can have fancy stuff of any colour

i have black on a few things but mostly i prefer to play about with image programs and texmod gives me that

Mr. G · Apr 04, 2008, 11:42 AM // 11:42

on some armors (mesmer sunspear comes to mind) the odd combination of purple + Purple + Purple + grey works

works like old black, god bless it

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but yeah If I want stuff black I just exmod it ><

then again most of my armor sets are unique anyway - mod is ftw

Mork from Ork · Apr 04, 2008, 01:04 PM // 13:04

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Originally Posted by Sir Tidus

Agreed. That's what's supposed to happen in real life. Though I can never actually get it to happen.

the reason you can't get yellow, red and blue to make black in real life is because of the way the light spectrum works. The true primary colors are actually yellow, magenta and cyan (the same colors in your printer's ink). An equal portion of the three will make black.

However, it is much more difficult for the eye to distinguish true cyan and true magenta plus it is more difficult to make the pigments for those colors.

So artists adopted blue and red instead of cyan and magenta. These two plus yellow and green are sometimes called the "psychological primaries." For the most part those colors work just fine in real life.

Your computer, however, uses the cyan/yellow/magenta color wheel [although, because your computer screen uses light addition to make colors rather than light subtraction (which is how your printer ink works) its colors are the complimentary colors for the c/y/m color wheel - that is red/blue/green.]

One difficulty with the GW dye system is that it uses the red/orange/yellow/green/blue/purple color wheel we tend to use in real life but the actual program has to use the true color wheel of red/magenta/blue/cyan/green/yellow

I have no idea how they made it work to begin with but considering the difficulty of translating between the two color schemes it sort of amazing they got it to work at all.

Apr 02, 2008, 10:28 AM // 10:28	#1
maxim3 Academy Page Join Date: Jan 2008 Guild: Noverosa Guild N L [LIJP] Profession: W/E	fake black (dye) hi, does someone know with wich dye mix its possible to make a color who looks like black? ty

Apr 02, 2008, 10:38 AM // 10:38	#2
Tatile Desert Nomad Join Date: Sep 2007 Guild: Stygian Disciples of Tenebrasus Profession: N/Me	Most Prophecies armour is purple+green. I'm not sure about other armours, but this place likely has the answer.

Apr 02, 2008, 11:48 AM // 11:48	#3
Baird Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Aug 2007 Guild: Mirror Of Reason [SNOW] Profession: R/	I too only heard of the purple + green combo to make black for Prophies armor

Apr 02, 2008, 12:11 PM // 12:11	#4
Elder III Furnace Stoker Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Ohio Guild: I Will Never Join Your Guild (NTY) Profession: R/	purple +green works on some of the weapons as well, it sometimes helps to add red or brown to the mix, but not always. Of course some items you cannot get to look black no matter what you do. hint I always have at least one of each dye color on hand so that I can check color combinations whenever I want to dye something.

Apr 02, 2008, 01:25 PM // 13:25	#5
maxim3 Academy Page Join Date: Jan 2008 Guild: Noverosa Guild N L [LIJP] Profession: W/E	but i mean on armor heh, not on weapons (thy 4 the other replies)

Apr 02, 2008, 02:58 PM // 14:58	#6
Jam Jar Krytan Explorer Join Date: Apr 2007 Guild: [Disc] Profession: W/	In real life, like in REAL life, yellow, red, and blue makes black .

Apr 02, 2008, 09:39 PM // 21:39	#9
Witchblade Polar Bear Attendant Join Date: May 2005	texmod, free j/k

Apr 03, 2008, 01:31 AM // 01:31	#11
Kerwyn Nasilan Forge Runner Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: WHERE DO YOU THINK Profession: W/	purple green red works pretty well i use it to dye non elite armors theat would look nice black for less money.

Apr 03, 2008, 02:16 AM // 02:16	#12
Enko Forge Runner Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: VA Profession: Mo/	you have a specific armor that you're looking to dye? different armors dye differently.

Apr 03, 2008, 03:36 PM // 15:36	#14
creelie Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Alberta Guild: Charter Vanguard [CV] Profession: Mo/	It really depends on the armor. Monk armors dyed purple+green almost always turn some shade of blue. Mesmer Tyrian armor (female) dyed default gray looks almost exactly like old black. Collect 3 of each of the cheap dyes, and do some experimenting in preview. The awful detail-destroying new black is hard to replicate, and why would you want to? I only use black when I simply HAVE to darken a mix and have exhausted my other options; I wouldn't dream of using it alone.

Apr 04, 2008, 11:42 AM // 11:42	#17
Mr. G Desert Nomad Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: S. Wales Profession: Mo/Me	on some armors (mesmer sunspear comes to mind) the odd combination of purple + Purple + Purple + grey works works like old black, god bless it ----------------- but yeah If I want stuff black I just exmod it >< then again most of my armor sets are unique anyway - mod is ftw